Yes! This is the official brainstorming/planning/flaming/discussion thread about the YPN CON 2002.

What is the YPN CON 2002?

The YPNCON 2002 is a (potential) YPN conference, where YPN regulars, or less regulars will have the opportunity to meet in real life!
I think this is a good idea for the following reasons:
1) For the sake of doing it...
2) Because meeting in real life is so much better in IRC
3) (insert your favourite reason here)
As you can see, there are plenty of good reasons for doing a YPN CON.

When will the YPN CON be?

2002 would be best! Why? Because that means it's this year, and because it's a nice number (the next one of this kind will be 3003, and we can't wait for that...).
For practical reasons, a good time to do it would be summer, because everybody is on holiday then.

Where will the YPN CON be?

In Europe preferrably. Why? Because that's where its center of gravity lies, IMO (And because me, the writer of this document, lives there ). Most of the people in Japan will come to Europe in the summer, too.
Now, in what _country_ to do it? I suggest the Netherlands, (and JaZper, for that matter ) for various reasons. First of all, it's pretty centrally located, then, there are a lot of other.. er, very good reasons that speak for themselves


Soo, what do you think? Input is very much appreciated!

Hey, netherlands would be great, 'cause it's no distance from where I'm living.

But...


How many days will the Con be long?
Where do we live(or better: sleep) during the time of the Con?
What is the program? I mean, will we only meet and greet each other or will we do something funny/useful in that time(Another way to put this question: Do we take our Computers with us?)?
[addsig]

What about us poor saps who want to meet all y'all but don't have the $1000+ for overseas plane tickets and stuff?

He's got a point

Hmm...Neither do we have the money to come the US. I think most ppl in the ypn can reach Europe easier than the US, but that's just a speculation of mine.

Anyway, I think the has to come true [addsig]

Yeah, I know that, but everyone knows that the US is better, so we should have it here

I know what you mean, and you're probably right - I more than likely wouldn't be able to get time off of work or school, even if I did have the cash to burn

govtcheez: that's why i thought it would be good to do it during in the summer... and well, the netherlands are a lot cooler than the US

as for taking our computers... well, it would be cool if everybody had a labtop... but i'm pretty sure that's not the case. (i don't have one either).

Well, in the .nl we'd stay with JaZper, who already agreed! :)
i hope he has enough place, lol.

if doing it in europe, we could (Maybe!) have peter, moxx, fabs, jazper, me (i mean ME, not "me"), icebird, kagez and a lot of other regulars at the event.. well, if 75% of those can't come, we'll still be a few

-->that's why i thought it would be good to do it during in the summer... and well, the netherlands are a lot cooler than the US

That wouldn't really make a difference for me - there's 2 weeks in June and 2 weeks in December when I'm not either at work or in school...

I'd be fine with it, but 6 months after that, I want one in the States - I'd be willing to put people up....

[ This Message was edited by: Govtcheez on 2002-03-18 19:50 ]

shit. what should ppl who has 250$ 16years and bad folks do? i mean id like to meet you all. but im kind of.... i mean none eould let me to spell_chk[netherlands]. even if it would be in lithuanian i would probable be not allowed

We should have some space with room for computers + power supply . If you can bring your computer, do so.

The Netherlands? Well, how big is JaZper's house? And I don't see why the other "obvious reasons", eg. weed, would be related to a YPN conference. If you wanna have that kind of fun, then do your private trip.

Nonama: well, if not else, you could communicate by paper? seriously, I don't think it'd be a very big problem..

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And I don't see why the other "obvious reasons", eg. weed, would be related to a YPN conference. If you wanna have that kind of fun, then do your private trip.

In my opinion Germany would be a better choice. Then svara has to buy us everything we want. It's also more central on the YPN map. We all can sleep in a tent outside svara's house

ok, I will go to germany in the summer vacation, but I will definitely not go to the netherlands. Reasons?
1) I don't have that much money
2) I don't have a laptop, and I know how boring it is to sit there when other are on the PC, and you can't do anything besides sitting there and try to get their attention, which is near to impossible
3) I have _no_ idea how to get from germany to the netherlands, and I also dunno how to reach what in the netherlands

enough reasons? If it is in germany, I'd love to join you guys, that is, if my schedules meet with that
[addsig]

I guess this meeting will end up in 2 people visiting svara at different times

Hopefully not!!!

I'm okay with us meeting in germany, though I live nearer to every town in the netherlands than to some german cities. Especially Freiburg where svara lives AFAIK is a much longer way for me. But I was there recently and it's a cool town with small 'rivers' running through the streets.

Well, germany or netherlands - I'll be there!

actually, the netherlands thing was meant more like a joke, but heh, as JaZper said he could host us ;P

kagez: as for the price, you can get from germany to almost everywhere in europe by train... there are special prices that make it pretty cheap (as in: not very expensive)...

gernamy. it looks much more realistic




i might get there. and what abiout lithuania?

Oh, forgot to add that the place has to have a good connection.

Germany sounds good to me.

The US. You people will cater to my needs.

I agree...US...

As 100% of the admins wouldn't be able to go to USA, that seems to be an impossibility.

No. You will cater to my needs, or you will not cater at all.

If my demands are not met, I will boycott YPNCON 2002.

Too bad! I guess the YPNCON is doomed then!

[addsig]

That's right! Who's going to yell random swear words and make random bodily noises if I'm not there!

I don't think that it will be possible for everybody to go to one place. Maybe there could be one in the US and one in Europe... Just a thought.

::gasps::

Govt! ::smacks govt around a bit:: You can't do YPNCON before "One Fine Day" or "Flashdadee-Fest"! [addsig]

Well, if the US citizens who can't afford coming to Europe organizes a meeting, it's just great. But none of the admins can come, or at least I can't, I don't think the others could.

it's not a bad idea.

at least I can't go to the US!
[addsig]

-KEN-: I can and will, if there's one I can go to... At least everyone here's talking about actually doing it.

Kagez: Why's it such a big deal for you to come to the US from Japan, but Europe's easy? Aren't they about the same distance?

fabs and kagez have relatives in germany (and fabs is moving there anyway), that's why.

btw, that's that stuff KEN was talking about?

--> that's that stuff KEN was talking about?

I'm gonna take a guess and answer it like you said "what's that stuff..."

One Fine Day is the same sorta deal as YPNCON, except for cprogramming.com - doubleanti thought up the name, and it stuck nicely...

Flashdaddee Fest is, again, the same deal as YPNCON, but for flashdaddee... Ken just made up the name now, AFAIK... Not a bad one

Yes it is.

I don't think that it really matters if there is an admin at both meetings....

germany. i think it is the best idea for europian guys. i mean. its not far from every country. its not expensive. what else? oh... everyone likes germany. but what will usa, india and australia ppl do?

All the US, Australlia and others not living in europe can come to the US

Listen - it's obvious no one's gonna come if I'm not there, and if it's not in the US, I can't go, so let's just make this easy and put it in Michigan.

Michigan...I used to live in MI...How about somewhere more centrally located in the US...Kansas,Missouri? [addsig]

Nope, only MI.

Where'd you live in MI?

How about Oklahoma

What the hell is there in Oklahoma besides dirt? (and a good basketball team)

Petoskey, Cheboygan, Good Hart and Mullet Lake (Places I lived in MI) [addsig]

Cool - I've lived in Big Rapids, Sault Ste. Marie, Flint, and various places around Lansing...

Sault St. Marie isn't near Lansing.

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[ This Message was edited by: kpyro on 2002-03-21 18:45 ]

Right, and neither are BR or Flint... I'm just saying where I've lived...

You want the easy version?
Born in Big Rapids
Moved to Charlotte when I was like 1 (Charlotte's 20 miles sw of Lansing)
Lived in several houses around Charlotte
Moved to Lansing till I was 7
Moved to the Soo until I was 10
Have lived in Grand Ledge (10 miles w of Lansing) since then... I go to school in Flint half the year, and that's why I listed it...

Great. I lived in Cheboygan from about 4 - 7 and then in Petoskey from about 7 - 10. Then in North Carolina for about 3 years and then here in a living hell, Montana. [addsig]

Vote Plz

I vote for Germany
although Netherlands is very interesting for summer vacation [addsig]

US

Australia, though even if you did come, I could not leave my town, just started work, no holidays yet
)-:

Mabye next time.

I'm not gonna vote, because I couldn't get out of school and work unless it was in my backyard.

Ok...If this voting will lead is anywhere...

I hereby officially vote for Germany coz it's the place to be

And if some other country in the neighbourhood will be the place to be for the ypncon - well, I don't care but I'll be there!

/me is Rhymemaster MoX [addsig]

How about New Zealand where they filmed the Lord of the Rings trilogy. [addsig]

I don't think so... You have to think about all those people who are poor as dirt and live 5000 miles from where you want. [addsig]

Are there any females in YPN?



No, I'm not a pervert I was just wondering because my friend is part of this one programming community and they have no girls. [addsig]

We have about ten female members, none active.

I'd say Germany too .

I was only kidding. I'm a big LOTR fan.

My official vote is the US. [addsig]

Is it pervert to be interested in girls?

I hope not!!! [addsig]

Christmas Island.
Equally inaccessible for all of us.

http://www.legento.net/nor/voting/poll/poll.php3

here thats a poll! done in hurry because got much to do in last time!

[ This Message was edited by: moondude on 2002-03-24 19:15 ]

When is the poll over? [addsig]

So what is up now with the YPNCON???

Summer is coming soon(already warm and green outside)...So maybe we start making decisions... [addsig]

Well, I live in the US and my mom thinks it would be a good opportunity for me so I can probably go!! Plus this will be my first time out of the US and always looked forward to it. I hope this all works out. [addsig]

My idea still stands. We should have a YPNCON in the US and in Europe. That way more people could come. It would be alot less for us in the US to go somewhere here then across seas. Then those that don't want to or can't fly don't have to. It looks like US is winning anyway. [addsig]

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On 2002-03-22 02:26, kpyro wrote:
Great. I lived in Cheboygan from about 4 - 7 and then in Petoskey from about 7 - 10. Then in North Carolina for about 3 years and then here in a living hell, Montana.

Where in NC? I live near Raleigh.

The UK seems closer to the US than Germany... London's a nice place!
I could jsut get a tube ticket and leave you guys to fly over

I think I'll prefer the european YPNCON, because it's not that expensive, closér to me and the YPR is there... [addsig]

Ok, god to be of YPN, decide and say, YPNCON is running here at this date etc, those that can will get there, those that cant will not.

Or we could sit here saying where it shouldbe for 15years till were all old enough/rich enough to fly somewhere
(-:

Right, as I said, we need decisions. Rather than saying "We could it make in this or that county" we should find out where we could really do it. I mean, who can offer room for all of us? Has anybody from the YPR arranged something? [addsig]

You people are crazy if you think this might actually work. I don't know parents who would let their kid fly to another part of the world to meet people they've never met. I have enough money for about... two days in Germany, but my parents would never let me. [addsig]

Maybe your parents don't let you go...

But what about the many guys from europe? Why shouldn't we meet?

And btw, there are some people in here old enough to travel on their own... [addsig]

well, i don't have anything swpecial planned.. but i'll meet fabs probbaly.. that doesn't really count as ypncon tho
yeah, mookeen, ypncon is for people in europe mainly i don't believe a lot of people would fly from america or asia or whatever to europe just for ypncon

Do we really need to meet each other? [addsig]

then let's just meet all in japan!
[addsig]

dxprog: No, we surely don't need to. But some of us have become friends in here and would therefor like to meet in real life.

I'm one of those who'd like to [addsig]

I've made friends too, and it would be nice to meet them. But is it worth paying thousands of dollars to see them? I kind of like it this way. It's hard to explain why though. So don't ask. [addsig]

Why?

Im not asking about whats hard to explain, but about the very fact that it is hard to explain.
(-:

We shall meet someday.
May the AMD be with you.

We shall meet. And if the meeting will take place in europe I'll only have to pay some hundred euro (and that would already be quite expensive).

So, as far as I know KaGez and Fabs are coming to germany this year, right? Do you come at the same time and could there be a meeting with some guys from around? I think it would be fun! [addsig]

Quote: Do we really need to meet each other?

Yes.
How about having YPNCON in Europe this year and having it in America next year?
[addsig]

how about forcing the americans to come to europe? /me will boykott all ypncons in america by not coming!

_.:YPNCON 2002:._

August the 15th, at fsvara's.

Doors open at 8:00pm, food and drinks for free, of course

I'm glad all this YPNCON discussion finally led to anything [addsig]

August 15 is my birthday .

That's exactly why I chose the date [addsig]

I wont have been at my job long enought to be able to take holidays then.
Bugger.

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On 2002-06-24 04:55, MoX wrote:
_.:YPNCON 2002:._

August the 15th, at fsvara's.

Doors open at 8:00pm, food and drinks for free, of course

I'm glad all this YPNCON discussion finally led to anything



Huh, what? Did I miss something? Who said I had to take all of you... No no, that doens't work! ? Whatever... Pff, always me who has to do the stupid stuff

Well, just wanted to say that we need some planning now, or it will be YPNCON 2003 or 2004 or even later... [addsig]

Hey, 2004 tie it in with the new Windows Release.
(-;

Probobly is. [addsig]