Posted by -KEN- on 06:59:00 05-13-2002
Since people are trying to drag actual substance outta me (pshaw!) let's have a good old fashioned debate...
...on .NET.
I think it's a great new innovation, most likely it'll revolutionize programming as we know it. It creates less hassle for the programmer, it's fast (after the first startup), and it allows you to easily exchange subroutines, structures and classes, etc through the multitude of .NET languages.
There are a lot more points, but I'm not quite in the mood to list them all...
so what do you think?
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Posted by dxprog on 10:21:00 05-13-2002
The web porion of it looks pretty good. I don't like the way they've revamped VB though. They made a little too "webby" so too speak, from what I have seen. But for the most part it looks pretty good. 'Cept for the price.
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Posted by MoX on 15:36:00 05-13-2002
The idea of working on projects with different languages sounds very good. I simply don't know how exactly it works. Does it translate everything into one language and compiles then?
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Posted by fsvara on 01:16:00 05-14-2002
karma^Wpost count whoring....
it had to be said:
Check out Mono:
www.go-mono.com
and DotGnu
www.gnu.org/projects/dotgnu/
Posted by -KEN- on 04:45:00 05-14-2002
Not really...I couldn't care less what you think of me, Kaggy...despite what your vanity tells you. And post count whoring? LOL...I barely ever come here...I truly don't care.
I mean, I'm sure it must feel nice saying that to appease your sense of inferiority, but pease...spare us. Trying to actually find out what the Linux/OpenSource opinion on these things are.
So please, kagez, keep yourself out if you have nothing valid or interesting to say on the topic.
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Posted by MoX on 05:14:00 05-14-2002
Sorry -KEN-, but as well as you confused me with the guy who locked up one of your posts you have obviously confused fsvara with KaGez...
And you called me senile, -KEN-?
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Posted by -KEN- on 05:27:00 05-14-2002
Yes...apparently I'm quite a senile old man. Nearing 70!
Counfounded blue lettering beneath their names.
I just hope that saying it made him feel like he had a large penis.
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Posted by KaGez on 20:38:00 05-14-2002
-KEN-:
I have my rights to post where I want, even if I'm not interested in this topic.
So, my opinion about this:
.NET sux heavily, mono rox!
happy?
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Posted by MoX on 21:40:00 05-14-2002
Oh no, -KEN- is in his penis phase again...
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Posted by fsvara on 22:58:00 05-14-2002
uh, the post count whoring part wasn't referring to your post... but to what i posted. if you think it applies to your post, too, you're free to do so of course.. didn't really get what you wanted to tell me anyway.. i just posted two links.. and you feel offended.. strange
Posted by -KEN- on 05:06:00 05-15-2002
pure penis compensation.
Anyhow... .NET and Mono...same diff...
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Posted by Flikm on 05:39:00 05-15-2002
what exactly is .NET? sorry, dont keep up with everything m$ releases.
Posted by MoX on 15:20:00 05-15-2002
I think .NET is first of all a marketing thing. Refering to MS it is the revolution -KEN- speaks of.
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Posted by KaGez on 15:59:00 05-15-2002
hmmm... is "What is .NET?" a good question? I think it would be better to say "What can .NET do?" .... I don't know too much about .NET, but I know that you can't answer on the question "What is .NET?" so easily... it's a really huge thing, not only for developers afaik.
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Posted by SilentStrike on 16:39:00 05-15-2002
The portability between langauges is nice, but still not worth platform depedence, IMO.
Posted by KaGez on 20:21:00 05-15-2002
That's true... if they'd do it platform independant I think they'd have much more users....
But, it's M$.... I'm pretty sure that that won't happen ...
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Posted by Peter on 20:45:00 05-15-2002
I've heard they scrapped the plans for Hailstorm. Unbelieveable . Are there any plans for something similar?
Yeah, I'd also like to know what .NET really can do.
Posted by MoX on 21:04:00 05-15-2002
I guess it was a quite difficult decision for them to make it platform dependent. If they had done it portable, too, they could sell all their programs for other architectures as well.
But platform independence and compatibility of code in different langs is probably a too difficult thing to realize. Maybe it would simply be lacking a lot of its efficiency then. Just think of Java, which was not exactly the fastest thing on planet earth...
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Posted by -KEN- on 06:38:00 05-16-2002
Yeah, I'm sure there were speed issues.
And what can .NET do?...well, perhaps you should ask what it CAN'T do...anything you can do it can do better
But seriously...care to get specific on that?
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Posted by SilentStrike on 12:54:00 05-16-2002
Can it run on Linux?
Posted by KaGez on 21:51:00 05-16-2002
SilentStrike:
for linux go try the Ximian Mono Project it seems to be very promissing too. I've not looked to deep into .gnu, but it also looks useful
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Posted by MoX on 22:21:00 05-16-2002
I'd prefer Mono just because of its name. If every OpenSource guy was as creative as the .gnu people we would probably all be running Lindows or Dox...
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Posted by fsvara on 00:06:00 05-17-2002
hm, what's dox?
well, afaik the mono guys are just trying to recreate the langauge and the calass libraries, while dotgnu want a passport-like thing of their own and some other stuff, too.
Posted by MoX on 01:10:00 05-17-2002
I simply wanted to say how uncreative the name .gnu is. It's simply using MS' .net slightly modified. Mono is a real name instead.
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Posted by bpt on 11:58:00 05-27-2002
Quote:
On 2002-05-17 01:10, MoX wrote:
I simply wanted to say how uncreative the name .gnu is. It's simply using MS' .net slightly modified. Mono is a real name instead.
I simply wanted to say how uncreative the name .NET is. It's simply using .NET unmodified.
Posted by MoX on 15:06:00 05-27-2002
true - looks like I've simply seen it from the wrong point of view
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