in this moment
i´m at the RoboCub
in Germany
here fighting
football robots.
They are realy Intelligence!!!!!!!!
Pics came soon:


Henning

I wish you could explain things a little better... then people will contribute.

i guess he means robots playing soccer against each other, that they are really intelligent, and that he'll post pics of them.

i guess thay are just simple bots having turn(angle) move(speed) commands



details would be interesting


aurimas

Hmm...as far as I know these robots act with AI. It's actually quite a cool competition I suppose. Have seen some pics of the last one if I remember right. [addsig]

link?

ya, a former icewm hacker told me their uni had won that competition (fu-berlin IIRC)

they are very inteligent robots, Australia has a few unis in the comp too, they usually do well, though fundin has been cut dramaticly in last few years
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ghm... i've heard something somwhere, but my knowledge in this subject is realy poor. can anyone point me to some good resources about this....

i read recently that the rpbots are supposed to win against a real team of soccer players by 2050...

wow.... I wanna see _that_! I hope that I'm still alive then
[addsig]

Kagez, we are supposidly the first generation to live forever, or the last generation to die.
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On 2002-05-01 17:06, sacah wrote:
Kagez, we are supposidly the first generation to live forever, or the last generation to die.
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LOL, who said that?

hehe, I don't want to live forever, no thanks
[addsig]

Yeah, but considering how fast the last years passed I would not mind to have, say, one or two hundreds more of them.

...still a lot to learn even after three hundred years, I suppose [addsig]

if i could choose how long to live, i thnk i'd live 120 years or so actually, i'm quite curious about dying... i'll finally see what comes afterwards, if anything at all then so yeah, i'm looking forward to my death (not saying i want to die, don't get me wrong!)

Probably they won't be anything...

Actually I'm more afraid of becoming old than of dying. [addsig]

That was said in the scientific community, they released it public too.

Im Christian so I believe in life after death, and cant wait, though I enjoy life on earth too.
But imagine how over crowded it will be.

i am not chirstian, or religious at all actual... but i do believe that people (and animals, and plants) have souls... this might sound really strange, but look, what is it that makes you conscious? I was like "The sum of all chemical and physical processes inside of my body, that's _me_".. but thinking about it, I realized that that couldn't be the whole truth. i have also realized that there is no such thing as absolute truth..

talking about the topic is made especially complicated as it is outside of the normal scope of scientific research, or even reach of science and nothing can't be "proven"... you can only think about it i have no answer for "what happens after death", and nobody has, as nobody _knows_ or _can_ know. but i could well imagine that our existence isn't finished by death... that doesn't mean of course that we just live on in some sort of perpetual "high" (paradise...)... you can interpret it in any way you like

if further discussions about religions continue, this topic will be locked
I mean, it's really about if you belive or not... there is no wrong or true.
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so what? using gnome or kde is about believing, too. and i didn't post anything strictly religious, but very general. there is no reason to lock this... move to off topic maybe, but it's still REMOTELY related to AI

I don't know why we are more than the sum of our parts...If certain parts of your brain get damaged you get dumb, inconsciuos. Just one example.

If you think about it, life after dead is least likely to be. Actually there's no reason why there should be anything except of our fear that all we've reached and what we are will get lost once...

I really got frustrated on this one, so if you know one evidence why there should be life afterwards (infinite life, and you should know _nothing_ is infinite), please tell me and make me happy [addsig]

I was thinking, We have a soul, and it goes when we died, so what happens to all these ppl who are cryogenicly frozzen, and when the technology becomes avaliable in like mabye 15-20 years they will be unfrozen, and hopefull a cure will be avaliable for what ever disease they died from, but what happens to their soul, if you believe in Heaven/Hell, does your soul come back, could this allow you to see into life after death, and see which you like better, or would you come back as a souless being??

This is not religious, as a lot of ppl beleive in a soul/the fact their must be a god. This is just something I was thinkin the other day?

But where does this believe come from? Every civilization has its god(s) and its religion, that's for sure. [addsig]

i do not believe in a "god" (tho people interpret "god" in a lot of strange ways that have very little to do with that personificated love the bible talks about) but i do believe in the "soul". And it is, imo, what differentiates a (AI) program from an animal or plant even (tho maybe ai programs could get a soul too, who knows ).
Well, maybe I should make it clear what I mean by "soul" first: Take it as a synonym for "consciousness".
A small thing to think about: Why are you _you_ and what makes you _you_? You could be any other living being... but you're _you_.
Why is that?
As for people getting dumb by parts of the brain being injured - that doesn't contradict what I said... Your consciousness isn't intelligent, it is not dumb, it doesn't even think. It just percieves the world around you by means giving by physical "sensors" (that is, your body). If the sensors are damaged, you'll get distorted information of course... Brain damage doesn't mean a person is "unconscious".
You say, life after death is unlikely. But then, life itself is unlikely.If you look at it from some "distance", there is no reason for life, or for the universe at all to exist But what is existence?

You don't have to understand what I mean (I prolly wouldn't either, if i hadn't written it )

I dont understand even what I wrote, i think we are all confused
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joys of life.

Though its interestin in 5 years to see how our ideas will have changed from these.

Guys, you may check RoboCup at http://www.robocup.org

There is a simulation league which you may be interested. http://sserver.sourceforge.net. You have to program a team of Software Agents where the programs will connect to a server which simulates a soccer match and the software agents will tell the simulator to kick move etc. It is quite fun. One Problem is that the server is for Linux and anyone hugging Windows will have to convert to Linux or be brave enough to look at the server source code and write a Windows version.

I am going to start using Linux. Wish me good luck.

[ This Message was edited by: seidren on 2003-04-15 20:10 ]