Before Partyfish is released, I think it would be a good idea to know what forums you people would like. So you post here what you would like and after a couple of weeks we'll tally things up and give the final results. Please NO FLAME WARS though. [addsig]

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that looks like a really decent list.. I'll try to come up with something more .

I'm not sure if that general algorithms stuff is such a good idea after all. maybe that stuff should be discussed in the forum for the language it's supposed to be implemented in.. it might be useful to have a separate forum if there is enough interest.. and I'm not against progress

We'll figure up sections for these things when the time comes. Otherwise just list forums you want. But yeah, Yjo certainly has something there. [addsig]

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On 2003-03-22 06:00, Peter wrote:
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I'm not sure if that general algorithms stuff is such a good idea after all. maybe that stuff should be discussed in the forum for the language it's supposed to be implemented in..

I know where you're coming from, but, as i see it, a hefty chunk of programming consists of getting one's head round the algorithmics, and deciding how your code will work, as well as how you're going to code it. Without going into the whole "programmers should be versatile!"/"programmers should specialise!"[language-wise], it would be nice for people from different programming language 'backgrounds' to interact with programming ideas.
I think it's wrong to say, for example, that a c++ coder can only learn from another c++ coder, or that a particular task can or should be implemented only in one language.

Goood luck with the new forums!

C'mon people. Need ideas. Polls close at the end of the week! [addsig]

hello my fellow friends
I think that's a great list. I don't have anything to add for that one.
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hmm i like to have an web design and an web programming section like now [addsig]

Crikey! I thought you would have been one of the first ones to post on this one. And you weren't raving about a Java forum either . I think I just had an idea though

-->Internet) Anywho, I'll post up the layout sometime next week (our computer is down, and I only go to the library so often). Thanks for the ideas [addsig]

dxprog:
erm... did you take something that had some bad influences on your thoughts? The last post's grammar looked awefull
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Crikey! Did I write that? Well, it's been one stressful week (trying to fix the family computer and then whatever it had got passed on to mine -->:-(), and I'd rather be in the comfort of my own home writing these things (don't ask). [addsig]

heh, design is something good. especially for designn00bs like me [addsig]

Okay, the new forums will be as follows:

-->generallanguagesconceptsInternetOSOff TopicPrivate

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[ This Message was edited by: dxprog on 2003-04-09 11:53 ]

It will be interesting to see how well this works out for you. From my experience, this sounds like way too many forums, to an extent that will actively damage the usefulness of the site and hurt the community-building aspect, by spreading out member interaction too thinly. At TPU, our current plan is to switch to a completely Wiki-based web site this summer, along with encouraging more personal communication on IRC and elsewhere. We have pretty high hopes for how this will affect our community. Tune in this summer to see how it goes. =)

Well, I think the IRC channel gets more traffic then the messageboard. Beisdes, if we only had three or four forums it would make it a pain to sift through all that. [addsig]

Look at how many threads have new posts per day. Why would having all of these even in a _single_ forum be a problem?

So what if some forums aren't active, if the message board is active on a whole then that is good. One more thing, this NOT TPU and will never BE TPU so get over it. This is dx signing off. [addsig]

I've got an idea. What if you let active members vote on what kind of a system they want for collaboration. I don't wish to be flamey (and I could be wrong), but it seems to me that the only people who are really excited about Partyfish are the people writing it. I know it's kind of hard to hear ``Why should we use this system you've been working years on?'', but I guess it comes down to whether you want the community to be sucessful, or just see your own toy in use.

I, for one, would choose a wiki-like system any day.

Please think about it,
D. Kuehn

But the thing is, only a couple people voted for this, would anyone vote for that either? And what the heck does "wiki-like" mean? [addsig]

Hello!

I find it's a hassle to have to check all of the forums everytime you come. All you need is the following: client side languages, server side languages, compiled languages, operating systems, projects and contests, hardware, and general. That may even be a little too much. I think a better solution to having a LOT of forums would be to color code or separate otherwise the different categories in a single forum. For example, if you were to click "operating systems," you could find threads related to MacOS, Windows, AND Linux, but would be able to identify them by color coding and possibly even filter results you are not interested in. This would be a unique approach, and that's what's important in the design of a BBS. You may be too far in the development process to implement that at this point, but I hope you consider it anyway.

Sorry dx, but maybe in 2 years or so, YPN wiki might not sound so bad. But I do like the new layout. [addsig]

Great job on partyfish though. [addsig]

Then someone would be foretelling our death on some other site. Besides, partyfish isn't totally finished, and if you don't like the way it looks, make a theme

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[ This Message was edited by: dxprog on 2003-07-20 00:30 ]

I dunt mean to be annoying, or stir things up...but does anyone else think that is too many [20] forums [though maybe things changed slightly since the thread is form a while back..]??

-->generallanguagesconceptsInternetOSOff TopicPrivateYPNgotdotnet.com. [addsig]

I guess no one read what I posted.

IinitI, that looks pretty good, but I don't see why anything that begins with "C" is in the same category. C# is much more closely related to Java than it is to C and C++. You are leaving a LOT of popular languages out too. How 'bout low level and high level?

Well, true...I just had idea to group the C langs [of _all_ colours and beliefs] together in the same forum [for one reason, a C/C++ forum might seem a somewhat logical palce to post C# related topics b/c of similer name alone]. If it ever got to where there were like masses of C# programmers, then I would think it could have its own forum?
But, i mean that was just a rough draft of forums, maybe a show of hands for what lang everyone uses/is interested in, ect to see how to divie up the forums.

Okay, let's start fomr scratch. Let's assume that the only forums we have are (in XML format):

<forums>
  <section name="Programming">
    <forum>General Programming</forum>
  </section>
  <section name="Private">
    <forum>Crew's Lounge</forum>
  </section>
</forums>

Take it form there


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[ This Message was edited by: dxprog on 2003-07-21 11:54 ]

I would suggest an OS forum, Hardware forum, Web Dev forum, and possibly a novice programmer forum and 1 or 2 language specific [C, Basic, ect] forums at first...additional forums can be added with relative ease later, right?

Ever thought of having boards leading to a whole other section?

Say something like the site at http://www.comp-talk.co.uk

They have many boards, but it is all well organized. [addsig]

kenikov: To do something like that would probably mean recoding the mboard stuff. I don't feel like adding that on to my already large list of stuff to do

ItinitI: Yes, I made up some admin stuff to do just that.

With ItinitI's ideas that brings us to:

<forums>
<section name="Programming">
<forum>General Programming</forum>
<forum>Newbies</forum>
<forum>C\C++</forum>
<forum>[Visual]BASIC</forum>
<forum>Newbies</forum>
</section>
<section name="Web Development">
<forum>Web Programming</forum>
</section>
<section name="Non-Programming">
<forum>Hardware</forum>
<forum>OSes</forum>
<forum>Off-topic</forum>
<section name="Private">
<forum>Crew's Lounge</forum>
</section>
</forums>

I added the off-topic on, after all, who can live with out it


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[ This Message was edited by: dxprog on 2003-07-22 02:58 ]

There are TONS of programming languages, why provide a forum for only two (and not two of the greatest, either)?

I've given my ideas; it seems like no one here listens to any input you have.

Well, they're the two most well known. And I thought the idea was to keep from having a zillion and one forums. [addsig]

Why are there 2 newbie forums?


Why must "Crew's Lounge" have their own Category in which we all know will result in just one forum in that category. Why can't it just be in Off-Topic? [addsig]

Im guessing the double novice forums was a typo-ish mistake.

Why those two lang get forums? well for one, those are two of the most popular langs and their varients. Like was said, if there all the sudden is a barrage of proggers of another lang, then they can get their own lang forum.

Yeah, the two nebies thing was a mistake. About the private section: Just in case you want more. KaGez decided that partyfish isn't just going to be for YPN, but kind of like phpBB. [addsig]

There is already a plethora of bulletin board systems.

So it ISN'T going to be for YPN?


As in YPN will be sticking with this BBS?

"...KaGez decided that partyfish isn't just going to be for YPN, but kind of like phpBB..."
I think emphasis on _just_.
I understand it that PartyFish will not only be for YPN but also publicly distributed, like phpBB.

As far as the 'plethora' of BBS; I'v only heard of a few free worthwhile [thouhg more may exist] ones [phpBB, XMB, and IkonBoard] of which only one I could get to work.

No, it's going to be for YPN, but it's going to be released to the public too.

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[ This Message was edited by: dxprog on 2003-07-22 12:28 ]

must be extremely hard to understand:
Partyfish will be used for the YPN, but that's only 1 goal of the many the partyfish project (yes, by now it's already a standalone project) has.
When it's done partyfish will be made public to everybody under the terms of the GPL (actually it already is, just check the CVS repository over at SF).
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Will Partyfish allow avatars? That would be a cool feature.

You can thank me for that (but only admins can assign them) [addsig]

Yeah, that could be nice. But _please_ dunt allow pics in sigs!!

oooh! oooh!

Please assign me one! Please assign me one! Pleeeeaaaaase.

Okay. Be happy [addsig]

Hmmm...an avatar is actually a small icon that goes under your name on every post.

It is? Whoops [addsig]

LOL...
Yeah, an avatar is like a small image [usually max size is 64x64] that goes around your name.