Hi!

I just installed Opera on the Linux box I use at my current work-place and I've been impressed. On KDE, it is much faster than Mozilla or Netscape and much more advanced in functionality than Konqueror.

You knoe the feature that excites memost? If you downnload files through Opera, you get to resume broken downloads at the touch of a button when you come back. If the browser crashes, you just restart it and your windows are restored to the former state.

Its the best. This fits my theory that the best free programs usually have some commercial backing: MySQL(databases), Qt(cross-platform GUI), and now Opera(browser). Forget about Netscape.
The only problem is that these programs can't be totally free! In Opera, you have to keep seeing these adverts on your screen. But then, the adverts are quite beautiful...

What do you think?

i'll stick to galeon. it uses mozilla's rendering engine with a lightweight GTK interface, not the kludgy XUL stuff mozilla uses. it's fast, not cluttered with useless features, and just perfect for what i need it does have some bugs still, as it crashes occasionally, but really not often... and when you then restart galeon, it asks you if you want to restore the browsing session as it was before it crashed...
oh, and it has tabs.. i couldn't use a browser wihtout tabs anymore today... i got used to using them heavily so fast...

fsvara:
1) restoring sessions works in Opera too afaik
2) opera also has something like these tabs (windows, but windows inside a window )

I also think that galeon is far better, or, to be accurate, mozilla is far better. Opera _really_ sux at CSS. Everything looks perfect in Mozilla/IE/Konq, but noooo, Opera has to fux0r up again..... Opera is a pain in the a** for web progammers if you ask me, how fast it might me. I can wait these 2 seconds more, because in return I get a fabulous rendering engine
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gecko doesn't do everything like it should be, tho, too. well, when it fails (that's mostly strange 'active' stuff), i guess it just doens't understand because it's some IE-specific thing and not a standard.. but, well, sad as it is, ie is the no. 1 browser, so other browsers need to be able to display pages jsut like it ..

Imho you don't have to be able to display IR pages. it's just that everybody should stick to these so called "standards". That'd make life for _everybody_ easier.
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Opera has one other "feature" I failed to mention - it crashes quite often. This seems to happen when viewing m$-infested pages (for example, it repeatedly crashed when I was trying to obtain information about MSDN subscriptions on microsoft.com)

So I guess I'll keep using konqueror/mozilla for such sites but stick to Opera for most things. I use it for all the downloads I make curently.

One more good point: Opera is the best-looking browser for Linux.

well, kagez, that's how it _should_ be, but the truth is a lot of sites are acutally using ie-only stuff already, and you can't tell somebody (well, you can, but not everbody will like it ) to just "don't go to that site, it uses ie-specific stuff that nobody should use".

no, the sad truth is, supporting those ie extensions is more or less mandatory for any good browser...

ok, I don't think that we need stuff twice, just because each browser has a own implementation of that (example: DOM).
And, to seunosewa:
What looks so stunning in opera? Imho the themes for galeon attract me more.
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seunosewa: What do you mean by "looking good"? Does the interface look good or does it draw better looking pages?

I like the smooth Orbit theme of my mozilla. The only bad thing of moz is it's speed. Is Galeon faster? [addsig]

it's faster at starting up, drawing menus, etc.. all thew interface stuff that is. drawing pages should be the same as they share the renderer.

yeah, galeon is faster in the aspects svara mantioned... but, about opera:
for me neither the UI looks good, nor does the page rendering attrackt me too much. Fonts are ugly, it won't use any fonts you've got installed (at least I couldn't get that one working)... CSS doesn't really work as it should (up to version 5 Opera was unable to use styles that contained "_" in their names...)
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I think the "looking good" idea is a subjetive thing, so I won't push it too far But I use KDE and Opera blends with KDE better than Mozilla or Nautilus (because its based on Qt). Konqueror would have been my choice (because of the desktop integration) but the features do not excite me much ...

Generally I feel more comfortable with Opera. When it crashes, I switch to konqueror. Mozilla is too heavy for me (slow and lacks desktop integration) and I heard that Nautilus' rendering engine is from the Mozilla project. Besides, my first experience with GNOME (about 1 2/3 years ago) has caused me to abandon it for good.

Opinions, Opinions, Opinions. Perhaps the important thing is that there are a lot of opportunities to choose what you want on Linux...

ok, gnome 1 2/3 years ago and now is a _huge_ difference. Ever looked at gnome2? on my PC I have a startup time of 3 seconds for gnome2, which nothing can beat. Even E takes longer on my comp.
Also, if you DL some precompiled binary stuff, mozilla is slow, yes. Compile it yourself, click on the icon, and pop it is there. For me Opera is slower in starting up after I compiled mozilla (actually my whole system) myself.
My Primary reasons why I dislike Opera quite much are:
1) ugly
2) uses Qt
3) _heck_ useless CSS interpretation.
These all go for konqueror too (except 1) ).
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Well, as seunosewa stated, the "looking good" thing is subjective.

I guess the same goes for desktop integration. Enlightenment and a GNOME panel (no, I don't use "desktops", they are inefficient") is the combo of my choice and I especialy like it because of the lack of integration. Hell, I'm using Linux and I do it because I love the plurality of different things working together. An environment where everything looks the same is nothing I value very much. [addsig]

oh, but I like it quite much
I must be able to customize the look as I want it tho.
Big minus for M$
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Aren't there lots of themes for windows, too? [addsig]

Hi!

Themes? Even Opera has a lot of themes, KDE has a lot of themes, but after playing around with them I find myself returning everything to the default settings so that I can concentrate on my work. Environments (including desktop environments) are supposed to support your work, not take your attention!

At least, that's what I think...

phpBB er.... sux
the anonymous above was me ...
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well, I'm using my PC for fun privately, so that's why I like to play around with themes and stuff. Also, I'm a very individual person, so I like to have a very individual environment. [addsig]

almost the same for me... I _sometimes_ use this PC for school work, but that's rare. Most of the work I do for school on this PC is fixing server remotely. Else I'm writing documents or make spread sheets you can always impress teachers with those thingies
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Well, in my practical I work about 8 hourse a day with the PC. It's a windows machine, but I don't need themes there, because I always run vim or putty in fullscreen (makes you feel like running Linux ). [addsig]

Well, I'm fortunate I use Linux. I used to work with this dark-green desktop theme but I couldn't get all my programs to use the same theme (I think StarOffice was the main culprit) so I changed to the default grey stuff. Besides, the free information I can get on the internet nowadays is much more interesting than my desktop

Hehe, just because you pick a nice theme, you don't need to sit and look at it. I like to have a cozy environment .

hmmm... I'm more tha Aqua type
Aqua in orange is the best imho
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Yeah, right now I'm using tha AquaGraphite theme for Gtk. Nice, but not orange. [addsig]

I also used that aqua grape thingy for a while
if you like aqua, you'll probably like these wallpapaers here too
http://gnapsterj.hypermart.net/tuts/pics/toybox.tar.gz
hehe, get em and look at em!
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