General YPN >> New Section!!!!
Posted by Henning on 15:05:00 02-26-2002
I think the YPN
need a new section
for Java!!!

Henning
Posted by nonama on 17:21:00 02-26-2002
webmasters could add perl section too.
Posted by Govtcheez on 17:31:00 02-26-2002
Oh yeah, and Amiga, and Orangutan maintenance, and Game Gear, and Nintendo, and 68HC11, and discussions for books about leeks, and everything else...

Why do people always clamor for more forums?
Posted by MoX on 07:20:00 02-27-2002
Why not? If there is enough interest for a new forum, then it should be opened. I intend to learn Java some day, so I'd be interested in some Forum or Section on Java. So where are all the Java Coders? If you want your code-language on this site you have to shout out now...
Posted by sacah on 08:05:00 02-27-2002
From what Ive seen, even if you have ppl interested in the New section, they still wont create one, (Refering to the Windows section)
I learnt java to make a cross platform IRC client, but got bored with the encryption part, and left it undeveloped.
)-:
Posted by Peter on 09:10:00 02-27-2002
sacah: yes we're fascist who hate everyone who thinks differently than us.

no but actually, if there would be enough interest/activity, of course we'd create it.
Posted by IbYdI on 09:24:00 02-27-2002
...and... [addsig]
Posted by Peter on 11:34:00 02-27-2002
And what? I doubt that a Windows forum would be any useful or active.

A Java section sounds more interesting.

[ This Message was edited by: Peter on 2002-02-27 11:35 ]
Posted by IbYdI on 12:26:00 02-27-2002
java???
ok even if i forget that java has brought only mess on this planet, theres plenty of room for java in webprogramming section... [addsig]
Posted by MoX on 13:27:00 02-27-2002
What 'mess' are you talking about IbYdl?
I for example do all my coding with jEdit, a nice and powerful text-editor, which is not even a bit messy.

And putting java in the webprogramming section would definitely be wrong. I don't know what you think Java is, but it is definitely a much wider topic than webprogramming.

(I really _really_ REALLY hope you're not talking 'bout JavaScript... )
Posted by IbYdI on 00:46:00 02-28-2002
im not talking bout jscript.
im talking bout java :
and java is a programming languare developed for...
but really, java is made only smash MS monopoly... [addsig]
Posted by Mintegra on 00:49:00 02-28-2002
WTF are you talking about?
Posted by dxprog on 02:02:00 02-28-2002
I heard that aside from the name JavaScript isn't really related to Java.
Posted by IbYdI on 09:26:00 02-28-2002
mintegra :
im talking bout why is java made...
and those are poor reasons...
just like c# (made to smash java)...
still, fvck java,fvck c#... [addsig]
Posted by Mintegra on 12:37:00 02-28-2002
Java was made to smash a Microsoft from having a monopoly? Didn't work....
Posted by Govtcheez on 14:14:00 02-28-2002
--> java is made only smash MS monopoly...

That's right! A programming language that was made solely to kill Microsoft!
Posted by fsvara on 15:53:00 02-28-2002
lol, govtcheez' notorious interesting post again.. haha
Posted by Govtcheez on 17:29:00 02-28-2002
svara: Sorry, I can't stand it when people try to make it sound like they know about something, when they obviously don't...

Btw, hey you - C#'s actually quite interesting if you allow yourself to get into it...

(totally irrelevant side note: I'm listening to the soundtrack from the movie "Queen of the Damned"... Man, this is a sweet CD)
Posted by IbYdI on 01:21:00 03-01-2002
well, i remember that corel announced that Corel Draw Suite will be made in Java from versions 9+...
they forgot that idea.
why? [addsig]
Posted by fsvara on 13:18:00 03-01-2002
"because they'd be crushing microsoft if they did"?
Posted by Govtcheez on 13:48:00 03-01-2002
How about because it'd be a really stupid idea?
Posted by MoX on 18:48:00 03-01-2002
Govtcheez: I still don't get why Java is so bad then? Even it is was really made _only_ (and I would bet a lot that this is not true) to "kill Microsoft", and it failed with that, it does not mean, that it is a bad programming language.

And as you claim to know about everything about Java and C# and a lot of other things you are probably able to give me a single _one_ rational reason why Java is bad.

Sorry if this sounds a bit harsh, but I really want to know.

Posted by Govtcheez on 19:00:00 03-01-2002
--> Even it is was really made _only_ (and I would bet a lot that this is not true) to "kill Microsoft", and it failed with that

I didn't say that. Hey you (|bYd|) did. If you were referring to my earlier post, it's called sarcasm.

--> And as you claim to know about everything about Java and C#

Hmmmm... Don't remember saying that...

--> give me a single _one_ rational reason why Java is bad

Speed. It's slow as hell.
Also - everyone bitches that C# lollipops because it's a proprietary MS language, but how many companies make Java? Oh yeah, that's right, only Sun. But Sun's not MS, so people with names like "1337_JaVa_H4x0R!!!" conveniently overlook it when bashing C#.

Good enough?
Posted by IbYdI on 19:48:00 03-01-2002
exactly :too slow.
anyway ill correct my statement to:
reasons java was made were , let me see, hmmm "political" [addsig]
Posted by Govtcheez on 20:09:00 03-01-2002
Political? Do go further...
Posted by MoX on 16:26:00 03-02-2002
Yeah, Java _is_ definitely a bit slow. But that is probably the cost of compatibility. I have not yet seen C# for Linux, but I can use Java with a lot of OSes...
Posted by fsvara on 22:08:00 03-02-2002
it _is_ slower, but the perfect, no-recompile, cross-platform ability that it _should_ have would make it a really cool thing.