HELLO!!!! [addsig]

hello german guy
(maybe you can say a littel bit more about you) [addsig]

Yo! What languages do you program? We can always use a second VB person around here. [addsig]

okay.
my name is scotty. i'm 18 years old. still go to school. i'm doing a practical course right now (thats how i found this page). live in germany (as everybody can see). i'm have german, half american. love sports and my computer. when i got some time, i try out programming some things!! i learned programming @ school. this is my 3rd year of programming (2 years C,C+,VC++; and i just started with java). i hope that's enough infos bout me? if you got more questions, just ask me!!!
C YA
*Scotty*

[ This Message was edited by: IceDuck on 2002-11-15 18:26 ]

wow, looks like you're capable of coding something. I'd love to see some programs you coded, and I'd also love to hear what genre of programs you like to program
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yo an java guy *happy [addsig]

most "programs" i coded, we did in/for scool. nothing really outstanding. @ home i just tried out silly things nobody needs!!!
lol
the 3 bigger things i coded was:

1. a programm that automaticly logs on to an AS/400 (server), getting data from it an saving it in an excelsheet!!!

2. a testproject, using the class CSpreadSheet, trying out all the funcions

3. a programm, reads CSV and writes it to an excel sheet.

(2. & 3. did @ my practical course)


@ henning: i just started java!!!!

I make an java tut but i think that you know all what stand there. [addsig]

Rats. Looks like I'm the only VB programmer still. Who cares about how silly your programs are. A good 99% of mine are useless, mainly used to pass the time or learn a new thing. [addsig]

You are not. I use VB.NET daily at work.

Now ya tell me. VB.NET isn't really VB though. They totally messed it up. [addsig]

i use vb

I still hate vb so i never will use it and for ME vb and vb.net is the same sh*** [addsig]

VB.NET is drastically different. They gave it a whole new structure. I'm not going to use any version beyond 6. [addsig]

I have a "messed" version of VB in my M$ Office over in my frsh win2k install
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Well... let's say it straight. VB6 lollipoped! VB.NET is close to what real OO programming looks like. [addsig]

I'm not saying anything about OO, I'm saying it's not VB anymore. VB has pretty much remained the same through BASIC (with Windows stuff added of course). I don't feel like starting a flame war so I'll just leave it at that. [addsig]

if you guys are up to a flamewar, please do so... then I'd have something to lock!
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No thanks. Lock it anyways, then you could prevent a flamewar. [addsig]

Of course, if you want to stick with 'traditionnal' VB, it's up to you. You still can get good things done.

BTW, I removed my ugly geek code signature, it was by itself longer than most post I did on this forum.

all vb version (include vb.net)are only there for coding viren and smash windows. [addsig]

I suggest you actually get informed about VB or try out VB before saying stupid things Henning...

Thanks Nue[Mann]! Couldn't have said it better myself. [addsig]

but well.... tell me what VB is useful for except for M$ Office Macros...
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macros are vba in most cases, which is a cut down version of vb
VB is for rapid application developtment, while it may be big and slow, our computers are generally fast enought to handel it well, VB is also extremly powerful, just like all other languages, its just ppl dont learn it, and just stick with draging controls, then start to think it lollipops, well, thats their bad luck, they missed out on a whole lot.

well, if you ask me, VBA su**s. It may be a very powerful language, but imho it's a pain to write stuff in VB. I'm not intended to start a flamewar. OK, VB may be good for some small tasks, like creating a little GUI for some DOS app, or make office macros. But if you wanna code something bigger... something working on it's own... I'd throw the towel. It's just too complicated for advanced things imho.
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You can do VB stuff like C. For example: you can make a window out of pure code, and it's almost exactly the same as the C code. But yeah, VB is good for when you're in a hurry and don't want to do much work. I'm whipping up a little IDE for the Borland free compiler so I can start using that instead. [addsig]

Yes. Visual Basic is good to get things done FAST. People don't use Visual Basic for the language but for the ease of use of the IDE.

Geeks don't like Visual Basic (but dxprog here seems to be an exception) because geeks don't like 'visual' programming because it's not l33t... It's a big matter of tradition.

Where I work, people use Visual Basic to make COM objects for business logic, simple app-that-automates-accounting-using-a-database-backend-for-mike-the-accountant. That kind of things would take 5x the time and 2x time the expertise to do in C++ or C. And using ASP.NET and Visual Studio.NET, I can make ultra-complex forms in 1/5 the time it would need to do it in HTML. And I'm pretty good in HTML.

I keep trying to tell you people that I'm trying to make the move from VB to C++. Until that happens I'll still like it. Actually, VB has been giving me some headaches lately because I can't do something or it would be very hard to do (like the %n stuff in printf). Give me a chance here. [addsig]

I do think it would be easy to make a printf-clone in VB...

Or you could use the wsprintf Win32 API call or something...

Making a printf clone would be slow code though. I didn't know there was an API call for it. [addsig]

Really, if you learn VB it can be very fast and able to do complex stuff, but mostly its used for its pure speed, I think only REAL geeks know the true power of VB d-:

Thank you! [addsig]

Has anyone seen a function declaration in older versions of VB? It was a long line of (((variables) in variables) in variables) and so on. I only remember the last four words: As Long) As Long

M$ was nice though - they put a plug-in in to cut and paste those.

But still - VB is one thing Billy did right. [addsig]

I don't think I've ever seen a VB function decleration like that (not even QB was like that).

Function HotDude (ByVal sString As String, nInteger As Integer, lLong As Long) As Long

That's pretty much how it's been since the beginning as far as I know. [addsig]