i think it would be cool to have avatars under our name..just a thought [addsig]

Hmm... do I remember right that this board has a photo option?

Well, perhaps it hasn't. There certainly are avatar patches for phpBB, I will search a bit. However, the saying 'Never change a running system' comes to mind... Just look at what happened to the Linuxnewbie.org forums after their 'upgrade'...

I think I have seen a board called Ultraboard before ... I think it was http://www.ulrtaboard.com or sumthin ... check it out

KaGez

lol, no, ultraboard.com sells posterboards

hhhmmm .. then check :
http://code.box.sk
Here u'll find some cool things
[addsig]

When we're already talking about Boards..
How does a "PHP BB" Board work after you
Download it? [addsig]

you just upload it properly , set it up and then you link it from a page ... but it's way better if you program your own one , cuz then you know how you can set it up , what worx and what now .... just a thought ...
[addsig]

well, i guess using phpBB is better than programming our own one. Look at the projects page of sasquatch.

I don't know php. I think peter knows it best, but making sucha big board as phpBB must be a hell of a lot of work, and it would never be so well tested as this phpbb.

The phpBB has always worked very well for us, and it's just as good as the UBB, which costs a lot of money.

I think you didn't really get me ...
I never said that this board sux or so .... I just said that it is just better to make your own one ... then you know all things you can do , and how to do them . And , does it really have to be a board like this ?? I mean , thi board has tons of features you don't even need .
[addsig]

i don't think so, really. I've seen baords that had so many bells and whistels you could hardly find out where the replies were. The phpbb has a lot of useful features. The only feature you could argue about is perhaps teh icq thing, where you can see if people are online, but that's still cool, i think.

I agree with KaGez on the point that it's better to write an own. Not because of the functionality or look or anything but because I like to know I did it. But on the other hand, phpBB leaves us no mess, it's very easy to handle. [addsig]

Yeah, write one of your own (but make sure it's not as buggy as the rest of the page ).

* robert is just kidding.

yes, sure, i agree it's good to code things on your own, but what i mena is that it would have been very stupid to use a board that we have coded ourselves on this page...

the server would probably already been compromised, all tuts deleted, all member passwords changed, whatever...

Of course you'll have to do some testing before you upload everything =)

svara: you're a programmer community , so I dun understand why you say that it was stupid to code your own BBS ?? I can't really understand that ...
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i didn't say that, really not!

i said it would be stupid to use a bbs that we coded oursleves! Look at the proejcts.php in sasquacth, the bugs in sasquatch, the bug that could make you overwrite any users account info!

phpbb is well tested and widely used, the bbs is one of the central aprts of the community, so using a bbs ehere that we coded ourselves would be time consuming and a security risk.

See 'why reinvent the wheel'

If there already is a board, that work very well, and that is well tested, why take all the risks of writing your own baord for the page?

I am not meaning 'why write your own messageboard', as it can be a very nice exercise, but the spritit of open source and free software is to share code and programs freely and modify them if you want, so why ignore all the work others have already done to create a good bbs?

Writing a bbs for the ypn would have delayed the lauch of the site greatly, and it would probably not look as friendly adn easy to use as our current one.

After all, the messageboard is one of the first things a new user sees.

If people at ypn wanted to start their messageboard project, I'd find that very cool, but using phpBB was just the logical consequent thing to do to get a good messageboard.

There's no point in doing EVERYTHING yourself.
PhpBB works well, and that's what we want it do do.

As I already said, if people here are going to write their own bbs that provides the same usablity, I'm sure we'd use that one.

But as of now, PhpBB is the right tool for the right job.

Fsvara, you say, why re-invent the wheel? I didn't expect to hear that one from you! That is one of the all-time worst comments I know.

However, THANK YOU everyone who remarked on our bugginess. I had lost of fun reading that and I really find it humorous in all ways - next time I might choose to use some community building kit, and why not hope that Microsoft writes one, they make everything easy!

Temper, temper... Well, I seldom get upset but hey, today I chose to be.

I find it a lot better to have an own BBS. And I remark, the only reason that I haven't written one yet is that I had more important stuff to do. And beware - I might hit you with one later this year.

I'll check y'all out later, see ya

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Förlåt för alla klagomål...

it is okay. the actual complaints are not the problem, just the context in which they appear. bug reports or complaints are of course okay, but within this topic it just hit me like what we put into this was not ebough to make it appreciated. or something (?) [addsig]

We like you Péter, even if your code is a bit buggy

(see, I can't be angry for much longer than this) [addsig]

hm what did robert say?

i don't know why you don't like 'why reinvent the whell', it's true...

people have done work on phpbb, and they'll be glad if we use it, and if we use it, we can concentrate on more important things, like sasquatch, which is very special in being a community system for programming communities, with hall of fame, tutorials, sourcecode, ratings.

phpnuke is ncie, too, but it would be the wrong tool for our job.

i don't understand why people keep insisting on doing everything themselves, sure, it's good learning, but coding more unique stuff is far better learning.

i understand that it's cool to have everything of your own, but isn't it more important to concentrate on new features in sasquatch?

and that's why i think the saying 'why reinvent the wheel' is true. If everybody keeps reinventing eveyrthing, there will be no progress anymore.

All the Linux kernel hackers, they could hae started their very own os. and that would really suk, because none of these would be very good, as only one person would be working on it, and promising systems would be lost in the mass.

There are a lot of Linux distros, but not one for every linux user.

well, if you thing it actually is GOOD to reinvent the wheel, well, it's your choice...
but i just don't think so.

And my comments here were actually not really targetted towards bbses (sorry peter for mentioning bugs in sasq), but more towards the elitist thinking 'i do EVERYTHING on MY own, because i DON'T WANT to use OTHER PEOPLE'S stuff'.

i wanted to clear that because i know my first comments sounded like 'We are not good enough to do it'.
That's not what i wanted to say, sorry.

it's cool, it's ok. i know what you mean - and that is also why I didn't do a bbs yet, I was busy with other things. And if I will do one, it is in fact partly for learning. I would like to do more original stuff but they might need more experience. Plus, most stuff has been done already, and if I don't do anything of that myself, I never learn. My first program was a VB4 calculator . Not too original. But useful back then.

Well, whatever I will do, Sasquatch will be a primary thing, don't worry.