Posted by ItinitI on 12:07:00 09-23-2003
Okee, I'v been thinking about getting back to programming for a bit now...and I see that some seem a bit bored here...sooo I was wondering if anyone is interested in forming some sorta language-specific-programming-learning-group??
Not sure if people are like me...but I get rather bored learning stuff by my self more often than not, and find it more interesting to work on stuff with others.
As for what language it could be Im not too sure yet... would anyone be interested in Fortran or Java??
Posted by DInsane on 20:56:00 09-23-2003
I've always wanted to learn Java, but Fortran also sounds interesting. I'd do it.
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Posted by Henning on 21:42:00 09-23-2003
I still know some java guys
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Posted by eosp on 11:36:00 09-24-2003
I'm an osdever. I love all them oldtimer languages (like assembly). Fortran looks interesting, but as far as I know, you can't code an OS in Java.
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Posted by Henning on 22:34:00 09-24-2003
sure, why dont try it
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Posted by C_Rdd on 00:21:00 09-25-2003
I know Java, so if you want me to lead a Java group... let me know
Posted by Henning on 01:59:00 09-26-2003
we do
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Posted by eosp on 09:17:00 09-26-2003
What about an osdev group?
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Posted by Neu[Mann] on 10:12:00 09-26-2003
Yeah! Let's together write some "Hello World" bootsector code!
Posted by DInsane on 05:54:00 09-27-2003
Or not.
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Posted by Neu[Mann] on 06:15:00 09-27-2003
i hope you know I was being sarcastic!
Posted by eosp on 09:20:00 09-27-2003
Besides I already have a colored "hi" that runs in grub in bochs
im past the bootsector stage
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Posted by dxprog on 21:54:00 09-27-2003
I wish I could that much
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Posted by Neu[Mann] on 22:46:00 09-27-2003
I bet you could but you don't care
Posted by dxprog on 01:27:00 09-28-2003
I just started bottomembly this week
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Posted by eosp on 10:32:00 09-28-2003
Look at your post dxprog - "assembly" is what we say here.
Also - asm is easier to type than "assembly".
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Posted by dxprog on 11:39:00 09-28-2003
I told you I just started this week
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Posted by eosp on 04:34:00 09-29-2003
What asmbler are you using? Debug? As from djgpp? Go to http://nasm.sf.net/ for the only worthwhile asmbler on the planet.
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Posted by C_Rdd on 04:58:00 09-29-2003
So whats with the Java Learning Group?
Posted by cowsarenotevil on 05:05:00 09-29-2003
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On 2003-09-28 10:32, eosp wrote:
Look at your post dxprog - "assembly" is what we say here.
It's the autocensoring...
Posted by eosp on 05:08:00 09-29-2003
Well then type asm! It's quicker too!
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Posted by dxprog on 06:41:00 09-29-2003
I'm using nASM in conjunction with DJGPP. I had some trouble getting started, but I'm not doing too bad now. I'm going to try to code my own OS.
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Posted by eosp on 10:19:00 09-30-2003
Good luck - I'm trying to also, and its harder than it seems. If you can write a decent printf function, please tell me.
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Posted by dxprog on 12:24:00 09-30-2003
I'm just trying to figure out how to write stuff to the screen without using DOS\BIOS intterupts
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Posted by Neu[Mann] on 20:36:00 09-30-2003
The text-mode video memory is at 0x0B800. Each character on the screen is two byte wide: 1 for the character, 1 for the attribute.
Posted by themaximus on 05:08:00 10-01-2003
Let's do a java one. I think java applets are really cool! Who else in favor of java?
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Posted by Neu[Mann] on 05:16:00 10-01-2003
What a "Learning Group" will consist in? I mean, "Let's make a Java learning group" is fine but... what will it do? have you considered this?
Posted by DInsane on 09:07:00 10-01-2003
Java wouldn't be bad. I guess I agree. Anyone else in favor?
If we do have enough votes (the majority of 'em), we'll begin planning.
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Posted by Neu[Mann] on 09:12:00 10-01-2003
I know Java pretty well and could be some kind of ressource.
Posted by eosp on 10:14:00 10-01-2003
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On 2003-09-30 20:36, Neu[Mann] wrote:
The text-mode video memory is at 0x0B800. Each character on the screen is two byte wide: 1 for the character, 1 for the attribute.
Yep, and heres the text colors (background then fg):
0 = black
1 = blue
2 = green
3 = cyan
4 = red
5 = magenta
6 = brown
7 = gray
8 = dark gray
9 = bright blue
a = bright green
b = bright cyan
c = pink
d = bright magenta
e = yellow
f = white
Sorry - this is BAD in bochs. Example good though: 0x14 is blue bg, red text.
Did you really use int 21? I know int 10 teletype, which is this:
mov ah, 0x0E
mov al, The Character in Ascii
mov bh, 0x00
mov bl, 0xCOLOR
int 0x10
Quick note: http://www.osdever.net/ is a great osdev site.
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Posted by dxprog on 10:25:00 10-01-2003
I know about Int 10. I just wanted to break away from any kind of BIOS or DOS routines (do it totally by myself). Thanks for the colors bit, though.
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Posted by eosp on 10:29:00 10-01-2003
Check out the website - It gives you a lot more than the colors.
By the way - no problem. I'm not much farther than you in the OS.
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