Posted by jgrant on 18:57:00 07-18-2001
Are there any Java programmers in the YPN? I am just now learning it. I have Thinking in Java by Bruce Eckel, but it is alot of material to cover, anyone reccomend any other tutorials or books? I tend to like smaller simpler books, then move on to the bigger ones so I don't get intemedated and think I will nevre finish it.
Posted by fsvara on 11:24:00 07-19-2001
i guess epall knows java
Posted by robost86 on 11:27:00 07-19-2001
Yeah, he's writing on a Java tut.
Posted by Sebi on 18:48:00 07-19-2001
i really recommend Java for Dummies... it did an awesome job in explaining that ´1. java is cool. 2. java is used in the internet, 3. java is hard, 4. java is used for multimedia, and 5. it provided me with a java applet IDE. great, isn't it????
Posted by fsvara on 19:00:00 07-19-2001
yes, evyr i just love books that tell you just how hard what you are going to learn is.
Posted by ^pixel on 07:01:00 07-20-2001
Depending on your ability to grasp programming languages I would suggest "Java for Computer Information Systems" by Staaugart. He does some really neat stuff.
Posted by epall on 18:09:00 07-20-2001
I'm ummm, sorta doing a tut but I'm not working on it much. For a book reccommendation: I would reccommend "Beginning Java 2" by Ivor Horton, i learned a lot of what I know about Java from this great book.
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Posted by happyhacker14 on 23:09:00 07-20-2001
I couldn't say as I know JAVA, but I can understand it very well because I am the JAVASCRIPT master and they are super simular.
Posted by robost86 on 01:00:00 07-21-2001
Hmm... Mr JAVASCRIPT-master, Javascript and Java are only similar in syntax (both uses C syntax). Java is a compiled (well, at least byte-code compiled) language, JavaScript is a cheap scripting language for web browsers. Java is way more powerful, it's designed to do real programs in. Javascript is for half-interactive web pages. I guess we both can read most high level languages, because all are pretty similar.
Posted by epall on 16:14:00 07-21-2001
I agree with robert, Java is very powerful and comes with an amazing class library. You can also download more (well documented) APIs from sun(It also comes with all the source for the class lib.). Javascript, on the other hand, is a good web page scripting language based on Java from netscape.
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Posted by robost86 on 22:02:00 07-21-2001
Actually, I like JavaScript in a way, but it's not really powerful. What I don't like is Java I think it's too slow, but on the other hand, I like portability.
Posted by jgrant on 22:34:00 07-21-2001
JavaScript is not based on Java.
Posted by KaGez on 17:32:00 07-23-2001
just a thought , but maybe you can also check http://www.informit.com for some online books ... they also got some really cool stuff for free =)
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Posted by SilentStrike on 06:03:00 07-31-2001
Java itself (even if compiled to machine code) will be slower than a similair C++ app because of decisions to make the langauge more programmer friendly. Things like garbage collection, forced initializations, and automatic index checking make programs easier to develop, but increase their runtime. Still, when speed is not an issue, java looks like a great langauge to program things in.
Posted by sachac on 17:46:00 08-02-2001
Sun (http://java.sun.com) has an excellent tutorial in their Documentation section, as does DeveloperWorks (http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/java/?loc=007,t=s,p=jwcp)
You can also drop by #java on IRC - Undernet and OPN both have this channel, and most nets probably have it also.
If you're coming from a purely structured programming background, be prepared for a paradigm shift - might be worth buying a book or going to a class just to learn OOP.
Have fun!
Posted by Peter on 20:08:00 08-02-2001
I actually don't have much standardised knowledge about how to program as such... I seldom had the energy to read through an entire tutorial/book . So although I might be able to solve a certain problem, I might do it a very weird way .