I have made a program so that we can communicate, via chat. One person will be able to start the server the others will connect and we will be able to chat...

You can get it at:

http://www.kp.homestead.com/index.html

My mouse is broken and it is hard to make my page w/o the mouse. You have to click the "Home" button to download it. Post the server addresses here... [addsig]

Very good, you also allow more than 2 ppl connections, this is where a lot of ppl have problems, pretty nicly layed out, but mabye compact stuff more, and dont just End the app if their names are the same, pop the name window back up.

Apart from that, its quite nice, are you goin to submit this as source code, put you in the running for CoTM when it gets back upand running, also help other VB programmers out there.

I couldn't get it to work. Came up with a winsock error.

are you trying to grow up a community inside a community?
I'd love to join you guys, but I think WinSock doesn't work over here very good
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Hey. This is for Windows friends. You don't even use Windows. How can you be a friend. J/K [addsig]

hrm -->:]
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I beleive this would be a winsck 2.x app, just guessing, withour dissin it, try installin that, should work unless you running Windows 95, or wine, etc

As a matter of fact I do plan on submitting the source code. I am also taking all suggestions. Sorry about the site, as I said my mouse was broken and I couldn't fix it. How do you guys like the logo? [addsig]

which site? which logo? :/
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Kagez: If you don't have windows, you won't know because it's in the program.

I take it no one likes the logo? [addsig]

When I click "Home" I get a 404 I'd love to see it tho
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Logos not bad, though it takes up a lot of room, plus storage space. And how could a mouse stop you being able to make your web site?

You need a little work on the web site layout, though thats not one of my strong points either.

WYSIWYG. [addsig]

could maybe somebody get that pic out of his cache and post it here?
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The picture is in the actual program itself. I will post it up here l8er. [addsig]

ok, thx a lot
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http://sacah.faith.web.tj/logo.jpg

hehe, that looks cool
but is it really YPN chat and not a "YPN (windows users) Chat"? just a simple Q
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Man, I still can't see it. DARN AOL!!!! [addsig]

also not the one sacah posted? :/
you sure that you've got images enabled in your browser? (just a guess)
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Thanx, sacah for posting it. I don't have all the time in the world. Anyways, the logo used to be just, YPN but then I made the program and changed it to YPN chat. [addsig]

Yes I have images enabled. It just gives me it's "Web Restricted" song and dance.

dxprog: What you have to do is drag each of the .dll's onto the regsrv program that was with it. If that don't work...I don't know what will. [addsig]

dlls that came wiht what? AOL? [addsig]

Use AOL. That is all I can advice you. [addsig]

AOL dont like me.

/me doesn't like AOL [addsig]

No, the .dll's that came in the zip file, YPNC.zip [addsig]

I now officially totally hat AOL. THis morning I couldn't get on the message board, so I'm working off my parents account. [addsig]

Most people don't understand truely about AOL. They haven't had the burden of actually _having_ to use it. I feel for you man. I had AOL a while ago... [addsig]

Thanks. But all of a sudden AOL is letting me on the board again. Goooo figure.

My Recommendation:
Go search for a better ISP
[addsig]

Well, that's up to my parents. They pay for it after all. [addsig]

Some of use just can't "go search for a better ISP" considering the fact that some of us don't pay for it. Nobody that doesn't use AOL realizes that those who do use it, and hate it, don't really have a choice. That's like saying "Hey I got pII with a 2gb hd." and then you saying "Why don't you go buy a good computer!" So lay off..... [addsig]

Hm, is AOL that cheap? Is it really cheaper than an other, better ISP? (I mean, most ISPs must be better than AOL).

Actually it's more expensive than, for example, MSN. But MSN requires a credit card and my parents think it would be stupid to get a card just for an ISP. Also up till now my town didn't have a number anyways. We tried Juno but that stank. We also were on this local thing but was bad also. So we are baically stuck. (At least until I get a computer from Dell and get six months MSN free ) [addsig]

it seems like other non-stuck peoples also use AOL, so there must be something good about it too... does anybody know that? cuz, up to now I've only heard negative stuff about it
does AOL also offer other stuff than 56k?
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Yeah. They have DSL. We can get a free 30 day trial but my dad doesn't want to go with it because we aren't going to get it. AOL claims they're fast but they are slower than all the other ISPs we tried. If I'm lucky I can manage a 3K a second download rate. When downloading something than a meg it's horrid. AARRRGGG. [addsig]

ugh, that's horrible :/
doesn't your dad also use the connection? if so, he should also have noticed how slow that is :/
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Actually he doesn't hardly go on anymore. Every now and then he'll look at the weeks Dilbert comics and maybe check some ball game scores, but that's about all. My dad has a T1 line at work so he has the fast connection there. CRUD. [addsig]

screw him!
maybe you should talk about it with him and ask him if he can't do anything about it (your connection I mean)
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I think I'll survive.

hehe, then stay on AOL
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Actually. Being on AOL is like living in a desert, but you have an oasis and catuses to eat. You'll survive, but it won't be pleasant. [addsig]

What? [addsig]

oh, don't care for him
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some of the nicest cacti out there...
try this link:

http://leda.lycaeum.org/Chemicals/Mescaline.12.shtml

seeee, our chemistry freak fsvara!
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What's the link? AOL isn't letting me see it. [addsig]

It's about some stuff called "Mescaline", that you 99.999999%ly won't use as a programmer! [addsig]

You might use it if you were making a chemical mixing program...But I doubt you will ever need "Trichocereus werdermannianus" ! [addsig]

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On 2002-05-08 22:02, KaGez wrote:
It's about some stuff called "Mescaline", that you 99.999999%ly won't use as a programmer!


Generally, programmers are more likely to make expirience with such material... as they are often smarter, more curious about new things and more resistant to negative propaganda (as they question things before just believeing them...)

Psychedelics are certainly not the kind of thing you'll find with 1337 h0m13z... (well maybe you will, but that it _ab_use in most case imo).

Just look at smart and intellectual people like Timothy Leary, Alexander Shulgin, Albert Hoffman, Aldous Huxley, Henri Micheaux etc. just to name a few...

The experience of taking drugs...Why do I always expperience things much better when I'm totally conscious? An artificial state of confusion and haluzinations is nothing that I'm eager to feel.

Anyway, do what you like. [addsig]

maybe. but having read some trip reports, you'll see that most psychedelics, or entheogens as they're often called, too, do not produce just the inebriated and confused state of minds we have come to know from "soft drugs" like caffeine, nicotine and ethanol. Instead, some produce a perfectly clean and sharp expirience, simply in other states of consciousness, or in such an alternate peception of the environment that it means and a complete different level of perception.

For some, like Shulgin or Hoffmann, it was the exploration of the mind, of the way we think, of our consciosnes - for some, like Leary, it was the psychological aspects of psychedelics - and for others, like Huxley or Micheaux it was the poetic or philosophic interpretation of a near-to-transcendental expirience.

The way people use it plays a huge effect on the public oppinion. Sadly, it is the few cases of stupid and unenlightened use, at "rave parties", for example, that are responsible for the bad public image of meditational and intense self-exploration tools.

Additionally, you'll get a completely different opinion of that "inebriated and confused state of mind" once you actually read real reports of a huge experience.

-Fabian Svara

X-MAILER: Svara with onTHC support v. ~15.6666

[ This Message was edited by: fsvara on 2002-05-09 17:27 ]

OK. I'm now officially confused. I haven't done chemistry yet.

hey, this is a windows forum
if you'd like to discuss about chemistry, we have a "Bubbling Cauldron", so do it there please
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There you go

yeah but this isn't the only forum where discussions can go off topic... this is a nice example for a discussion that started with some obscure windows stuff and is now about psychedelics

fsvara: As far as I know, drugs affect your thinking by 'shutting down' functions of your brain. I just can't get how you can learn about the way we think or explore yourself by passing out your brain.

And, you can meditate without drugs, maybe even better. [addsig]

Its called ASM programming

/me agrees with mox too

but, I've got one thing for those of you who don't know it:
it's scientifically prooved that "meditating" = "sleeping". I've read that in PM (some german magazine, quite good). The brain's state is _exectly_ the same as if you were sleeping.
That's all
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haha - is that true? How lame are all these meditating people then...

Perhaps they should go to bed earlier... [addsig]

MoX:
since you live in germany I think you know the mag "P.M.", or not? It was written in that quite some time ago.
I don't wanna waste my time with sleeping!
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Its the same as deep sleep that many ppl dont actually reach each night they sleep, whereas meditation is taught so they reach that state much faster.

ok, maybe it can be useful from that viewpoint but, since I can sleep, I don't need it too much
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KaGez: Yeah, I know PM and I read it regularly some years ago. It appeared to me as if it got worse since that time, though I'm not sure. [addsig]

yeah, it got bad for quite a while, but now it's ok again imho
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moxx - no, they don't "work" by shutting down parts of the brain. the exact way in which drugs work is known in _very_ few cases only. for most substances, scientists have no clue...

THC is known to be an antagonist to the "cannabinoid"-receptor (like some chemicals in chocolate, though they do so in a much weaker way), to which the natural antagonist is "Anandamide", but nobody really knows what exactly Anandamide does...

Nobody knows how LSD, MDMA, Salvinorin A, just to name a few, work.

peter - nice if you can achieve such a state by meditation... but i would think of such a deep state of meditation as practically unreachable for a "normal" person that doesn't dedicate its life to it...

If you are interested in the matter, I'd suggest Leary's and Huxley's writings...

I simply won't use drugs for the fact that they are unhealthy and would probably affect (damage) my brain long term. My life is good enough when I'm not high and the things it lacks won't be made up by drugs.

Do your thing, take your drugs. I won't tell the police. [addsig]

Quote:
they are unhealthy and would probably affect (damage) my brain long term.

I disagree, of course...

But somehow I don't want to argue anymore

yeah, arguing sux!
let's be friends
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lets share drugs and be freindly
I got enought to go round, though I dont know what the side affects are for someone who does not have the conditions I do.

I take no responsibility for 3rd heads grown by users of my drugs.
(-:

hehe, 1 thing:
I won't take em in first place!
[addsig]

This is a Windows forum here. [addsig]

that was said already. and i replied already, threads do go off topic and that's not a problem, as long as they don't get offensive.. like the stuff KEN started...

Yeah, ken is just a "troll" on this board. [addsig]

It seems like all posts break away from the topic. Like my LOTR game went from copright laws to movies we like to stuff about DVDs.

Hehe, but the most remarkable thing is that these topics don't self-die, but morph on to new subjects. Of course, as long as someone doesn't come along and complain about the topic gone off topic, whereas this phenomenon gets discussed throughoutly.. d'oh

I haven't started a single flamewar I don't think, thank you very much...

-->-->Yeah, ken is just a "troll" on this board.

Omigosh! Look! It's Obvious Man! [addsig]

I dont think I think either, though thinking to think would be like forgettin my goal.

Try saying that one three times fast. [addsig]

you know, this forum is exactly like the "Bubbling Cauldron" at the moment. You guys wanted to have this board, so please use it for windows discussions, and not for general or offtopic stuff like this
[addsig]

Look at the beginning of this discussion. It simply went off-topic. That can happen (and does almost always happen) in every other topic as well. I don't see any problem with that. [addsig]

moxx: agreed...

the windows forum _is_ quite useless atm tho wasn't sacah going to "astroturf" it a bit (in a positive way, please )

Every topic I start always goes off topic, and so do most other topics... [addsig]

Quote:
On 2002-05-17 02:55, kpyro wrote:
Every topic I start always goes off topic, and so do most other topics...



And that is _completely OK_ and _a nice thing_. This is becoming a FAQ.. or FC (frequent complaint). what's the matter...

People here are not interested in the kinda stuff I wanted this forums to discuss.

Thats why I wanted a poll to be put up first, not many ppl who use windows like to know how it works, they go to Linux for that.

Listen, leave this darned topic alone.

I like the fact that it goes off topic. I don't have any other teens my age to talk to so this is like a miracle for me. TGFTYPN!!!! [addsig]

I'm sorry. [addsig]

eh

J/K [addsig]

? [addsig]

Go Away. [addsig]

the posts in here are getting _very_ _very_ creative, you know
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yep [addsig]

indeed.

Chicken? [addsig]

LOL [addsig]

huh? [addsig]

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your cow needs a face lift.

LOL - laughing out loud
KaGez: That's a good cow considering. [addsig]

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(whistle) That's really good. [addsig]

I liked KaGez' cow... [addsig]

ya, cowsay rocks (i made the dragon with cowsay, too )
everybody with perl on their computer, get cowsay!

What's cowsay? Some textart tool?

(could google, but too lazy) [addsig]

ya, it makes cows say things.. but you can use different cowfiles, so also dragons and other stuff can talk

apt-get install cowsay for all you debianeros!

5W337 DR460N! [addsig]

btw, if you like cowsay, you'll also like cowthink!
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